Re: [rdo-dev] RDO community involvement in OpenStack's rpm-packaging project
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:48 AM Javier Pena <jpena(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hi all,
As you're probably aware, there is an OpenStack rpm-packaging project [1], where the
RDO community has been collaborating with people from other rpm-based distributions. We
have been successful in reusing some tools created by that project [2][3], but we've
never been able to reuse the spec file templates generated by the project, besides
openstack-macros and some python 3 tests done during the Rocky cycle.
As a community, we need to decide what we want our involvement in the project to be:
- Only get involved in the tooling side, if we have no plans to reuse the spec templates
in the future.
- Try a deeper integration with the specs.
- Other alternatives?
Each option will carry its own consequences, e.g. if we stop contributing to the spec
templates we should stop the 3rd party CI jobs and VMs that support them.
Please contribute to the discussion on this thread. We will vote for a final decision
during the next RDO Community meeting on September 5th.
I suspect the reason that we haven't been able to leverage the
OpenStack spec templates is because they're based on SUSE's Python
"singlespec" system.
This model of generating flavor subpackages as OpenStack and SUSE
Python packages is rather nice, and I've wanted to bring it to Fedora
as well[1]. Though people were interested in the idea, no one
particularly stepped up to help support exploring the endeavor, which
implied to me that we'd rather spin our wheels around with complex
migration paths as we're doing now for the Python 2 -> Python 3
transition.
If RDO is the driver that pushes us to properly explore this, I'm all
for it. I want our packaging of stuff to get simpler, not harder. And
overall, singlespec is actually a lot simpler for people than what we
do now.
As a whole, I'd rather see us sharing more package specs than not,
since the number of components necessary to package huge systems is
growing, and it's not worth it to spin our wheels over and over.
[1]:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/python-devel@lists.fedorapr...
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