[Rdo-list] RDO Manager status for Liberty GA
David Moreau Simard
dms at redhat.com
Wed Oct 21 15:10:19 UTC 2015
++ for all the work involved in getting RDO Manager back in shape.
GA or not, I'm very happy to aim for it gating for package releases
along with the rest of the CI (packstack et al).
It will greatly improve the quality and stability of what we ship in
the bigger RDO project.
David Moreau Simard
Senior Software Engineer | Openstack RDO
dmsimard = [irc, github, twitter]
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, John Trowbridge <trown at redhat.com> wrote:
> Hola rdoers,
>
> The plan is to GA RDO Liberty today (woot!), so I wanted to send out a
> status update for the RDO Manager installer. I would also like to gather
> feedback on how other community participants feel about that status as
> it relates to RDO Manager participating in the GA. That feedback can
> come as replies to this thread, or even better there is a packaging
> meeting on #rdo at 1500 UTC today and we can discuss it further then.
>
> tldr;
> RDO Manager installs with 3 controllers, 1 compute, and 1 ceph on
> virtual hardware have been verified to work with GA bits, however bare
> metal installs have not yet been verified.
>
> I would like to start with some historical context here, as it seems we
> have picked up quite a few new active community members recently (again
> woot!). When RDO Kilo GA'd, RDO Manager was barely capable of a
> successful end to end demo with a single controller and single compute
> node, and only by using a special delorean server pulling bits from a
> special github organization (rdo-management). We were able to get it
> consistently deploying **virtual** HA w/ ceph in CI by the middle of the
> Liberty upstream cycle. Then, due largely to the fact that there was
> nobody being paid to work full time on RDO Manager, and the people who
> were contributing in more or less "extra" time were getting swamped with
> releasing RHEL OSP 7, CI on the Kilo bits became mostly red with brief
> 24 hour periods where someone would spend a weekend fixing things only
> to have it break again early the following week.
>
> There have been many improvements in the recent weeks to this sad state
> of affairs. Firstly, we have upstreamed almost everything from the
> rdo-management github org directly into openstack projects. Secondly,
> there is a single source for delorean packages for both core openstack
> packages and the tripleo and ironic packages that make up RDO Manager.
> These two things may seem a bit trivial to a newcomer to the project,
> but they are actually fixes for the biggest cause of the RDO Manager
> Kilo CI breaking. I think with those two fixes (plus some work on
> upstream tripleo CI) we have set ourselves up to make steady forward
> progress rather than spending all our time troubleshooting complete
> breakages. (Although this is still openstack so complete breakages will
> still happen from time to time :p)
>
> Another very easy to overlook improvement over where we were at Kilo GA,
> is that we actually have all RDO Manager packages (minus a couple EPEL
> dep stragglers[1]) in the official RDO GA repo. When RDO Kilo GA'd, we
> did not even have everything officially packaged, rather only in our
> special delorean instance.
>
> All this leads to my opinion that RDO Manager should participate in the
> RDO GA. I am unconvinced that bare metal installs can not be made to
> work with some extra documentation or configuration changes. However,
> even if that is not the case, we are in a drastically better place than
> we were at the beginning of the Kilo cycle.
>
> That said, this is a community, and I would like to hear how other
> community participants both from RDO in general and RDO Manager
> specifically feel about this. Ideally, if someone thinks the RDO Manager
> release should be blocked, there should be a BZ with the blocker flag
> proposed so that there is actionable criteria to unblock the release.
>
> Thanks for all your hard work to get to this point, and lets keep it
> rolling.
>
> -trown
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1273541
>
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