[rdo-users] [rdo-dev] Status of RDO Trunk Ussuri on CentOS 7 and transition to CentOS 8

[Wesley Hayutin]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:56 AM Mike Burns <mburns at redhat.com> wrote:

> So, if I understand this right...
>
> * We're keeping the centos7 and centos8 versions of Ussuri consistent
> * There is no actual build of the latest commits built on either centos7
> or centos8
> * There is no possible way to have an Ussuri release on Centos7
>
> Assuming the above is true, I would say to turn off all the centos7 stuff
> and focus all effort on getting Ussuri latest built on centos8.  There does
> not appear to be any value in continuing work on centos7 if we can't
> actually deliver it at the end of the day.
>
> Mike
>

Agreeing and building on what Mike said.. this certainly raises the
priority on CentOS-8.  There are still tripleo patches incoming that will
not be pinned ( I think )
Having a better understanding here of what has been pinned and what is in
progress w/o consulting rdo-info all the time would be handy.

I think the check, gate and promotion jobs for centos-7 ussuri need to stay
in place, however they should just always pass which would lower the amount
of work w/ regards to centos-7 but not eliminate it.   It could also be the
case that tripleo breaks itself from time to time, but I'm sure Emilien
would never let that happen as he's a robot and not human.

I digress


>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:05 AM Alfredo Moralejo Alonso <
> amoralej at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to open a discussion about the status of RDO Ussuri
>> repositories on CentOS7.
>>
>> As you know RDO and upstream teams (kolla, puppet-openstack, TripleO,
>> TripleO CI, etc...) have been working to switch to CentOS8 during last
>> few weeks.
>>
>> In order to make the transition easier from CentOS 7 to CentOS 8, RDO is
>> still maintaining Trunk repos consistent for both CentOS 7/Python 2 and
>> CentOS 8/Python 3. As OpenStack projects have been dropping support for P
>> ython 2, we've started pinning them to the last commit working with P
>> ython 2[1], we were expecting that transition will finish soon but it's
>> still going on. Over time, the number of pinned packages has been
>> growing including services and Oslo libraries where we can't follow
>> upper-constraints anymore[2]. Recently, Kolla has removed support for
>> CentOS 7 so i doubt it makes sense to keep pinning packages to keep RDO
>> Trunk consistent artificially and continue running promotion pipelines on a
>> repo with so many outdated packages. Also, pinning these projects makes
>> that changes needed for CentOS 8 will not be in RDO and would need to be
>> backported manually to each package. My proposal is:
>>
>> - Unpin all packages in Ussuri to follow master trunk, or versions in u
>> pper-constraints (for clients and libraries).
>> - RDO Ussuri on CentOS 7 repo consistent link will not move anymore (so
>> no more promotions based on it).
>> - We will keep running centos7-master DLRN builder, so that packages
>> still builing with Python 2 will be available in current repo [3] to be
>> used by teams needing them until migration to CentOS 8 is finished
>> everywhere.
>> - Projects which already have CentOS 8 jobs gating in master branch can
>> remove CentOS 7 ones.
>>
>> We understand this can add some pressure on moving to CentOS8 to the
>> teams working on it, but I'd say it's already a priority and it's justified
>> at this stage.
>>
>> What do you think about this plan?, is there any reason to keep CentOS 7
>> artificially consistent and promoting at this point of the transition to
>> CentOS 8?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>> [1] https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:pin-py2
>> [2] https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/24796/
>> [3] http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master/current
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