On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 4:22 PM Hongbin Lu <kira034@163.com> wrote:
Hi,

I am a maintainer of the Zun project. From my perspective, I would like to have Zun supported by different deployment tools to minimize complexities for installing and managing the service. If TripleO community interests to add support for Zun, I am happy to provide necessary supports.

Because TripleO relies on modulus maintained by Puppet OpenStack project to manipulate configurations,
you'd need to start with creating a new puppet module (puppet-zun) for it.

Also, we need distro packages to support zun in Puppet OpenStack and TripleO.
Puppet-openstack relies on packages to install services , and TripleO relies on RDO in CI.
I quickly checked RDO but it seems there are no zun packages there.
Also Ubuntu has zunclient packaged[2] but no packages available for server side.
 [1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=zun&searchon=names
 

@Lokendra, if you are open to consider alternative tools, I would suggest Kolla [1]. Its support for Zun is quite solid and has CI to cover some basic senario. Another tool is OpenStack Ansible [2]. I didn't try that one myself but it has Zun support based on their document [3]. Lastly, the Zun community maintains an installation guide [4] which you can refer if you want to install it manually.

[1] https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/queens/reference/zun-guide.html
[2] https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/
[3] https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-os_zun/latest/
[4] https://docs.openstack.org/zun/latest/install/



Best regards,
Hongbin



At 2021-06-30 00:06:50, "Marios Andreou" <marios@redhat.com> wrote: >On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 4:45 PM Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 15:52 +0530, Lokendra Rathour wrote: >> > Hi Marios, >> > Thank you for the information. >> > >> > With respect to the *second question*, please note: >> > "is there any alternative to deploy containerize services in TripleO?" >> > >> > In our use case, in addition to having our workloads in VNFs, we also want >> > to have containerized deployment of certain workloads on top of OpenStack. >> > Zun service could give us that flexibility. Is there any reason that >> > deployment of Zun with TripleO is not supported? And is there an >> > alternative to Zun that the community is using in productions for deploying >> > containerized workloads on top of OpenStack? >> >> i think marios's resopnce missed that zun is the containers as a service project >> which provide an alternitive to nova or ironci to provision compute resouces as containers >> directly on the physical hosts. in ooo term deploying tenant contaienrs directly on the overcloud host >> with docker or podman. > >indeed I did as I got from Lokendra's reply earlier > >> >> i dont think ooo currently supports this as it is not listed in https://opendev.org/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/src/branch/master/deployment >> so to answer your orginal questrion this does not appear to be currently supported. > >and this isn't somethign I have seen brought up on the irc meetings, >ptg or elsewhere. That isn't to say it's impossible (it may be, i just >don't know enough about it to say right now ;)). Of course anyone is >free to propose a spec about how this might look and get some >feedback before working on it in tripleo. > > >regards, marios > >> > >> > please advise. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Lokendra >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 3:16 PM Marios Andreou <marios@redhat.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:36 AM Lokendra Rathour < >> > > lokendrarathour@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Hello Everyone, >> > > > We are curious in understanding the usage of ZUN Sevice in TripleO with >> > > > respect to which we have questions as below: >> > > > >> > > > 1. Does TripleO Support ZUN? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > no >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > 1. If not then, is there any alternative to deploy containerize >> > > > services in TripleO? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > yes we have been deploying services with containers since queens and this >> > > is the default (in fact we have stopped supporting non containerized >> > > services altogether for a few releases now). For the default list of >> > > containers see [1] and information regarding the deployment can be found in >> > > [2] (though note that is community best effort docs so beware it may be a >> > > bit outdated in places). >> > > >> > > hope it helps for now >> > > >> > > regards, marios >> > > >> > > [1] >> > > https://opendev.org/openstack/tripleo-common/src/commit/5836974cf216f5230843e0c63eea21194b527368/container-images/tripleo_containers.yaml >> > > [2] >> > > https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/tripleo-docs/latest/deployment/install_overcloud.html#deploy-the-overcloud >> > > >> > > >> > > Any support with respect to the questions raised will definitely help us >> > > > in deciding the tripleO usage. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > ~ Lokendra >> > > > skype: lokendrarathour >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> >