<div dir="ltr"><div>Great!</div><div><br></div><div>I'm currently working on how to bring log- and application- performance monitoring under the same roof for cloud-native and highly distributed applications on top of OpenStack w/ Cloud Foundry or OpenShift and Kubernetes add-ons and define some best practices (needs) to build a simple, though effective cloud native application monitoring solution for BizDevOps (yet another buzz :-)).<br><br>My 10 BizDevOps needs are:</div><div>
<ol class="">
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Bring log and performance monitoring under the same roof, by providing a seamless correlation between log and performance metrics.<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Provide intuitive pre-built monitoring interfaces and dashboards for everybody and for different roles and organizations (BizDevOps) (note: people lack the time and sometimes the skills to configure a monitoring tool).</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Build dedicated dashboards for transaction and correlation analysis to figure out the usual suspects like, memory leaks, garbage collection, saturated thread pools and hundreds of unusual suspects which might be the root cause of problems.<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Enhance the quality of logs (on paas and apps level) and define custom metrics which are specific to our cloud-native applications and visualize these metrics on custom dashboards for tenants w/ different roles.<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Analyze long term-trends such as how big is my database and how fast is it growing? How quickly is my daily-active user count growing?</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Implement innovative ideas such as data mining, forecasting and advanced analytics support to provide added value to the monitoring solution.<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Get alerts on issues before customers notice, use the monitoring tool as an early warning system, and analyze application performance before and after new code deployments.<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">If using remediation actions which are triggered through the monitoring solution, first require human approval before the script is executed (this provides a better understanding of the root cause of the problem and how to eliminate it in long term).<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Implement a simple, though an effective alerting system with clear alerting escalation path and low noise (rules that generate alerts for developers or operators should be simple to understand and represent a clear failure).<br>
</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""></span><span class="">Combine heavy use of white-box monitoring with modest but critical uses of black-box monitoring and learn from others like Google about how they are monitoring their highly distributed systems: </span><a href="https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/monitoring-distributed-systems">https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/monitoring-distributed-systems</a></li></ol></div><div class="gmail_extra">To achieve the above needs, I'm investigating the following tools to bring log and performance monitoring under the same roof for my current needs:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><ul><li>ELK / EFK Stack<br></li><li>Hawkular: <a href="http://www.hawkular.org/">http://www.hawkular.org/</a><br></li><li>Stagemonitor <a href="http://www.stagemonitor.org/">http://www.stagemonitor.org/</a><br></li><li>cAdvisor <a href="https://github.com/google/cadvisor">https://github.com/google/cadvisor</a><br></li></ul></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">and I think these BizDevOps-Tools might be the right choice to start with and I'd be happy to be of help.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_extra">Arash</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Matthias Runge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrunge@redhat.com" target="_blank">mrunge@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5">On 20/05/16 16:12, Rich Megginson wrote:<br>
> We are trying to start up a CentOS OpsTools SIG<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup</a> for logging, monitoring, etc.<br>
><br>
> The intention is that this would be the upstream for development and<br>
> packaging of tools related to logging (EFK stack, etc.), monitoring, and<br>
> other opstools, as a single place where packages can be consumed by RDO,<br>
> OpenShift Origin, and other upstream projects - pool our resources,<br>
> share the lessons learned, and enable cross project log aggregation and<br>
> correlation (e.g. running OpenShift on top of OpenStack on top of<br>
> Ceph/Gluster - do my OpenShift application errors correlate with Nova<br>
> errors? file system errors?). This would also be a place for<br>
> installers (puppet manifests, ansible playbooks), and possibly<br>
> testing/CI and containers.<br>
><br>
> If you are interested, please chime in in the email thread:<br>
> <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2016-May/014777.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2016-May/014777.html</a><br>
><br>
</div></div>Thank you for the reminder, Rich.<br>
<br>
We already have quite a few interested persons. The reason, why I didn't<br>
mention this here was, that it has a broader focus than just RDO.<br>
<br>
On the other side, it clearly will be usable with RDO, and it will help<br>
RDO operators to get to the root of occurring issues.<br>
<br>
If any of you is interested or can help, please join us on centos-devel<br>
mailing list and express your interest there. It will help us to speed<br>
things up.<br>
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